Good time girl

24/8/2020

Last week I posted my first blog, and the level of interest and quality of conversation took me by surprise and it made me feel a real sense of pride in this website. So thank you to all of you and the comments are really worth a read.

The Covid story rumbles on, bringing sadness and disruption but even with so much else going on I have had a number of people make contact to offer support or tell me their stories about the Christine they had met or knew.

I have even Heard from people who want to help me to clear her name, as one old friend of hers put it “It haunted her all her life”. So we shall see.

Of course there has been the odd person to reach out and let me know, how wrong I am, and how horrified they are that I am fighting for Christine and not fighting for Stephen Ward, who was after all the real victim. I understand the point, Stephen was indeed a victim, there were lots of victims, but sadly this argument tends to end with, “Well your mother did sleep around a lot”.

Christine once said to me, or I was in the room when she said it to a friend, how she hadn’t been with that many sexual partners up to that fateful trial in 1963, she had boyfriends and the odd lover, but back then I guess a lot of people could only see see women as either Mothers, Daughters, Nuns or Prostitutes.

When I was much younger, maybe 18, I found myself at a parents’ dinner party in Chelsea. I was asked by a middle aged sharp faced woman “I bet you think there is nothing wrong with prostitution” I was too young to understand that I was meant to be embarrassed, or that I was being insulted. Instead I said something along of the lines of: “As your birthday approaches do you have sex with your husband after to thank him for your present or before to get a better one.” Her husband nearly hit me. I’m glad I said it but I don’t really believe it, but it was something Christine had instilled in me. Sort of.

I grew up at a time where Stephen Ward was the victim, and his trial was a pack of lies, but Christine was a prostitute, that part of the worst miscarriage of British justice was probably okay. As time went on, when Christine wasn’t being called a prostitute as often, they used new phrases like “Call Girl” or “Good Time Girl”, and I still have no idea what a ‘Good Time Girl’ is.

This was Christine’s argument, “The truth is Seymour some men see ALL women as prostitutes, the Mothers, the Daughters, the Nuns”

I was just too young to really understand.

Keep safe

6 Comments

24/8/2020 07:48:32 pm

Christine Keeler was groomed, abused, coerced and controlled, there is no doubt now that she was a victim, however at no point as far as I can see was she ever a prostitute, but a young girl enjoying her youth. It makes me so angry when flippant accusations are thrown around just to play into a false narrative which has been created by those whom wish to damn others for their own agenda.
How many of CKs accusers can look back to their own post pubescent, sexual awakening years and be happy to lay out their night-time exploits for public scrutiny, it seems sad to me that the majority of those that chose to damn her and cat call were fellow women.
How many young professional footballers are castigated for the number of their love conquests?
Why is there no such term as “ good time boy “ or “show boy”? Who really has the right to question the morals of others, who decides what is acceptable when it comes to how many lovers is acceptable for anyone to have?
Thankfully times have changed, is it perhaps just possible that those who chose to name call and question CK’s morality were the ones who lived through a time when women were expected to do their duty in the bedroom and perish the thought that sex for women could be pleasurable, perhaps, just perhaps they were jealous of missing out, now that would be sad!
CK should be held up as a shining light for women’s rights, unfair of course that she took on the shame of a generation but it is exactly that, that allows women today to have the sexual freedom they enjoy.
Stephen Ward certainly deserves a sympathetic hearing when it comes to his conviction and how the establishment treated him, however we shouldn’t forget, this was a man in his late 40’s that convinced a 19 year old young girl to live with him and encouraged her to “meet” with his friends, all much older men. As times have changed when it comes to sexual freedom so have the way we look at such behaviour.....I’ll leave my thoughts about SW and his ilk till another time.

Gaynor Witchard

24/8/2020 10:36:07 pm

Seymour, you are a son to be proud of. Christine was treated so badly just because of a snooty attitude by those who used her and thought themselves above everyone else. Just appalling! I saw Christine being interviewed by Sue Lawley on tv, and her (Sue) look of disdain was truly awful to watch. Christine rose above it and for me it was Sue who made a complete and utter arse of herself. Keep writing your blogs, they are fascinating to read.

27/8/2020 10:13:22 am

Seymour, I wonder if, as part of your blog you would consider a Q&A section - as the person that new her best, what a wonderful opportunity to ask you the many interesting questions that I think we would all like to ask - nothing too personal obviously, but perhaps an ideal way of correcting the mistakes and myths that go unchallenged?

Seymour

31/8/2020 11:25:06 am

Hi DC
Maybe. Will think about it, If there is interest.

1/9/2020 03:42:12 pm

In the forward to your mums book, you say that you never met Christine Keeler, you only knew her as “Chris” or “mum” I guess, indeed sadly, your mum in her later years, used to be very scathing about "that damn Christine Keeler" usually speaking about herself in the third person almost as though she saw her younger self as a totally different person.

Absolutely understandable given what she had to endure over the years, she changed her name to escape from her earlier life, having seemingly been brainwashed by the terrible accusations and name calling in the media into perhaps believing those soundbites were actually true.

Unlike you, most of us only know your mum as Christine Keeler, the 60’s icon, and whenever her name is mentioned we picture those black and white images of a stunningly chic, elegant, beautiful young woman in our minds eye

- so my question would be -

as someone who knew a totally different person to any of us, when you look back at those iconic photos, do you see a famous face frozen in time and someone you never knew or could relate to or are you able to reconcile the fact that those images and the loving mum you knew are the one and the same person – who do you see in them? Christine Keeler or Chris?

1/9/2020 04:14:14 pm

Hi DC

Interesting question, pictures from the 1960’s - I see somebody I didn’t know, in fact that is true of any of her modelling shoots. I only see Chris, my mother, in the pictures she didn’t pose for.

Good time girl

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